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  DINOSAURS - What do Jehovah's Witnesses Believe?

  by Bloody Hotdogs! in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  as part of my deconversion catharsis, i have been building a(nother) website to highlight some of the more ridiculous jw beliefs.

  im a looong way from done, but i wanted some early feedback on one article: dinosaurs.

  http://www.jwbeliefs.com/dinosaurs/.

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  Bloody Hotdogs!

  Apognophos, thanks for making me think!

  My understanding of the physics of the water canopy is as follows: Material can either orbit the earth or bear directly on it (I'm unaware of a third option). Therefore, water can either orbit the earth (something like the ice rings of Saturn) or ‘float’ in the atmosphere (something like clouds and vapour), which in turn bears directly on Earth’s surface. If the water canopy existed toward the outer reaches of our atmosphere (not actually very high up at all), it would indeed turn to ice fall straight down.

  As for the effect on carbon dating - I’m going to have to re-think that… my head hurts.

  Also, you have made me seriously doubt the 7000 year thing. Maybe they do intend to allow for millions of years. It’s just that, a simple reading of their literature gives such a different impression...
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  DINOSAURS - What do Jehovah's Witnesses Believe?

  by Bloody Hotdogs! in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  as part of my deconversion catharsis, i have been building a(nother) website to highlight some of the more ridiculous jw beliefs.

  im a looong way from done, but i wanted some early feedback on one article: dinosaurs.

  http://www.jwbeliefs.com/dinosaurs/.

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  Bloody Hotdogs!

  HowTheBibleWasCreated

  OOOO! That is too good. Must. Find. Brochure.
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  DINOSAURS - What do Jehovah's Witnesses Believe?

  by Bloody Hotdogs! in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  as part of my deconversion catharsis, i have been building a(nother) website to highlight some of the more ridiculous jw beliefs.

  im a looong way from done, but i wanted some early feedback on one article: dinosaurs.

  http://www.jwbeliefs.com/dinosaurs/.

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  Bloody Hotdogs!

  Apognophos,

  Continuing to think out loud… If JWs mean to indicate that the creative “days” were "thousands of thousands" of years long, they surely do not mean the same for “day” seven. This would indicate that the “days” of the creative week are not the same length! Now, JWs have never said that, have they? I know they say that events started in one day overlapped into the others, but they never indicate the days are different lengths.

  Also, millions of years would not be “thousands” of years, by any traditional or mathmatical definition of the term "thousands". I suppose they could mean 999,999 years…. This is all so stupid.
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  DINOSAURS - What do Jehovah's Witnesses Believe?

  by Bloody Hotdogs! in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  as part of my deconversion catharsis, i have been building a(nother) website to highlight some of the more ridiculous jw beliefs.

  im a looong way from done, but i wanted some early feedback on one article: dinosaurs.

  http://www.jwbeliefs.com/dinosaurs/.

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  Bloody Hotdogs!

  _Morpheus, if only there was a recording!

  The infamouse 1990 Awake! (not that long ago) says that scientists cannot answer with cerainty what happened to the dinosaurs or when. Why? According to the article, Noah's Flood screwed up carbon dating! I kid you not.

  Since they have never retracted anything in that article, and have never contradicted it with new light, I think we can assume it to be current teaching.
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  DINOSAURS - What do Jehovah's Witnesses Believe?

  by Bloody Hotdogs! in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  as part of my deconversion catharsis, i have been building a(nother) website to highlight some of the more ridiculous jw beliefs.

  im a looong way from done, but i wanted some early feedback on one article: dinosaurs.

  http://www.jwbeliefs.com/dinosaurs/.

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  Bloody Hotdogs!

  Thanks Apognophos!

  I actually have no idea what the rules are about using JW art. I have tried to only take still images from JW videos, for the purpose of commentary and/or critiscim. I feel like that ought to be allowed, even if it isn't technically…

  As for the creative "days": The way I always understood it, JWs base the length of the six days on how long they want/need day seven to be. If the "end" is imminent, day seven must be very close to 7000 years. What's your take on that?

  Also, they have stated in very recent literature that each "day" was "thousands" of years long. That would be the most limiting definition thay have commited to, and therefore the one they should be held to (I think...). If they really mean millions, or "thousands of thousands", they have neither said that nor indicated it in any way. They even hedge thier bets on the "thousands" of years, usually saying "may have” or “could have". That is why, I belive, they always clearly differentiate between the millions/billions of years before creation and the "days" of creation.

  I think they're deliberatly trying to obfuscate thier true belifes. Due to your prompting, however, I will do some more research!
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  DINOSAURS - What do Jehovah's Witnesses Believe?

  by Bloody Hotdogs! in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  as part of my deconversion catharsis, i have been building a(nother) website to highlight some of the more ridiculous jw beliefs.

  im a looong way from done, but i wanted some early feedback on one article: dinosaurs.

  http://www.jwbeliefs.com/dinosaurs/.

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  Hi Apognophos

  Yes! I'm horrible at spelling, grammar, and writing in general. Not that I expect you to go through that much trouble….
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  DINOSAURS - What do Jehovah's Witnesses Believe?

  by Bloody Hotdogs! in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  as part of my deconversion catharsis, i have been building a(nother) website to highlight some of the more ridiculous jw beliefs.

  im a looong way from done, but i wanted some early feedback on one article: dinosaurs.

  http://www.jwbeliefs.com/dinosaurs/.

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  Hi OneEyedJoe

  As far as I can tell, JWs are NOT traditional old-earth creationists - relative to reality, they are young earth creationists. I tried to adress this issue on another page: http://www.jwbeliefs.com/jehovahs-witnesses-believe-creative-days/

  Of course, I'm also open to correction if my information/quotes are not correct... It is true that a lot of what they believe will hinge on this teaching.
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  DINOSAURS - What do Jehovah's Witnesses Believe?

  by Bloody Hotdogs! in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  as part of my deconversion catharsis, i have been building a(nother) website to highlight some of the more ridiculous jw beliefs.

  im a looong way from done, but i wanted some early feedback on one article: dinosaurs.

  http://www.jwbeliefs.com/dinosaurs/.

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  Bloody Hotdogs!

  Hi all,

  As part of my deconversion catharsis, I have been building a(nother) website to highlight some of the more ridiculous JW beliefs. I’m a looong way from done, but I wanted some early feedback on one article: Dinosaurs. http://www.jwbeliefs.com/dinosaurs/

  I would like to know if I have misrepresented any JW beliefs - that is not my intention. I’d also love to know if there are any good images or quotes that I have missed.

  The site gets almost no hits, so I’m not doing this because I think it will make a difference. It’s just nice to get a few things off my chest! The truth of what JWs teach about ancient life and natural history always bothered me...

  Cheers!
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  Need a 1961 green JW bible.

  by dogon in

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  i have a family member that will not believe that the jws put a dinosaur in the front cover of thier bible.

  i am looking for a copy that has that map inside front cover with the raptor.

  if anyone has one they can sell let me know.

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  Bloody Hotdogs!

  Besides the Bible and Paradise Lost book, are there any other odd dinosaur depictions in JW literature??? I would love to know!
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  A picture of a WT dream

  by Sour Grapes in

  1. jw
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  people stay jehovah's witnesses for several reasons.

  the foremost is because they are taught that they could cheat death and not have to die or even better yet not have to get old.

  the second is they can see their dead relatives again , who have a direct pass to paradise, and that we must obey to get there to see them in the resurrection.

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  Bloody Hotdogs!

  I posted some other absurd paradise images here:

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/288812/1/IS-THIS-SICK-LYING-TO-DISABLED-CHILDREN